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Sorry, ignore the last email! I found it! Wow! have you been busy! terrific job. Jean    jthisius@wolf.co.net

Was able to get to your site, figured what I did wrong.
Question: Do you have the Rodda line in family group sheets?
I see both my Rodda ladies on it, Pollard and Wicks, so you have their lines?
I recognize many of the names from my extractions, but have not been able to make a complete family unit out of many, or go far up or down their
lines.
Barbara Cady

cadyfam@ttc-cmc.net

Hi,
  I am interested in your "Fenwicks" as I have some close hits. I have a
Thomas Fenwick Born 1838 and a Catherine Fenwick born 1839 (no smith
though) Are your Fenwicks from the Glasgow area?

Derrick Fenwick   finny1@home.com


Hi Valerie:

Feel free to add the information to your file.  And thank you for checking
before you did it.  This is all I have on the Avery's except for the people
still living.

Good luck,
Kathy.             owlshoot@axion.net

Hi Valerie:

 The website is a credit to you and certainly interesting to me. I have done some checking with my aged aunt in Melbourne and she has provided the following information:

My grandfather was Frederick Charles Richard Bavage and he was born in Plymouth on 18th May 1901. His father was Frederick Charles Bavage ( a plasterer by trade) and his wife was Caroline. That's all I have. Please feel free to post on the site. Obviously I am keen to hear from anyone who can shed any further light on my particular branch of the family!

Let me know if I can assist anyone from my end.

Regards,

Steve Bavage        sbavage@yahoo.com

Valerie

I have just had a quick look at your website.  It is brilliant.  Well done!!
I do have some different dates etc but I am still trying to prove some of
the information I have.  I will be in touch.

Angela     angela.bavidge@talk21.com

In In my confusion in locating someone to respond to about my email address, I
didn't tell you how great I think this site is.  I was astounded to find even
my grandparents on the list.
But I have two questions.
One, my grandmother, Minnie RODDA OLIVER was born in Pennsylvania in 1876 as
stated on the site.  I wondered where Valerie got the source.  I have been
trying to locate just who in PA to contact for a copy or record of her birth.
Two, she has John RODDA and Elizabeth WILLIAMS RODDA as having died in
Connecticut.  But I don't think they ever left Cornwall.  Suezan James's
transcription of the PenPonds Cemetery in Camborne, has a listing for them in
that cemetery.

Anne Stephens  SNEHPETS35@aol.com

Hi Valerie:

 Thank you for your offer. Yes, I would like this to be included. I have
benefited from the sites mentioned, and, like you, wish to return the favour
in whatever manner. 

Great ... I will pass the entry to the other sites I mentioned in the next
day or two and add it to my web pages during my next update :)

Good luck with the list!

John Fuller                johnf14246@aol.com

Hi all,

Many Cornish amongst the passengers listed here,
http://istg.rootsweb.com/v3/1800v3/alaska18870502_1.html

Kernow62@aol.com

Hi new here , just heard about allot of coming and goings of VARCOE/vercoes  so just had to join in . I'm a varker with a vast history ( not my own work but grandfathers) with a whole heap of varcoes , vercoes , varco and varkers . The name seems to get changed all the time . I have one family who moved from UK to Australia so changed spelling mid route , they then went back to uk and it got changed again . Probably so they could tell which country they were in . If I can be of help to any one , please ask .
varker@btinternet.com

Hi
I'm just wondering if you have come across a Albert Ernest Babbage who married Jesse Davies in Brisbane 1895.
Annie

wbbh@mary.bog.net.au

Hi:

You certainly have my permission to link to any part of the website you wish.  I looked at your website and I find it an excellent effort and wish you all the luck with it.

Have a great weekend.

Joe Paradi

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Hello Valerie,
I do so love your website.  I was delighted when I found it and saw my family
there, even down to my grandparents, Minnie RODDA and John OLIVER.  The only
difference that I have is with the following, my great great grandparents.

1814    RODDA   JOHN    17/4/1814   14/6/1836   14/5/1881   ELIZABETH
WILLIAMS    PHILLACK-CONNECTICUT
1818    WILLIAMS    ELIZABETH   7/6/1818    14/6/1836   13/1/1893   BREAGE
-CONNECTICUT

Chris Uphill at <http://www.crosswinds.net/~chrisuphill/cmi/main> has them
buried in PenPonds Cemetery in Camborne.  I don't believe they came to the
US.  Their one daughter, Susan and three sons, Edward Williams, William and
Richard did all come to PA and then NJ.

Please let me know if you have other information that puts them in the US.

Anne Stephens

Hi Val:

I live in beautiful Hobart Tasmania, but was born in Melbourne on July 18th, 1953. I have no brothers or sisters.

My father Reginald Charles Bavage was also born in Melbourne, on December 28th, 1929.He also now lives in Tasmania. He had a brother Jack now deceased, and has two surviving sisters, Beryl Le Gassick and Barbara Jackson. My mother's origins are unfortunately obscure as she died many years ago, and we have lost touch with the few surviving members of her side of our family. However she was Lillian Evelyn Mercer, born in Melbourne on November 5th or 7th, (for the life of me I always got it wrong..) 1930. Her father was a Welshman, song and dance man, scoundrel and ultimately, family deserter. I have no record of his proper name etc, at this point.

My son Shannon, was born in Burnie Tasmania on September 30th, 1977, and my daughter Jemma, on 11th July, 1979. You have my grandfather's birth details and as you know, I am still chasing info on my great grandfather Frederick Charles Bavage, whom I suspect may not have hailed from Farringdon. I wonder whether the fact that he was born in Plymouth suggests an earlier Cornwall connection? I am guessing of course.

Thanks again for your email. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Best wishes,

Steve sbavage@yahoo.com  (Has since changed mail address)

Hi
 
I'm just wondering if you have come across a Albert Ernest Babbage who married Jesse Davies in Brisbane 1895.
 
Annie

wbbh@mary.big.net.au  (Note: Address undeliverable)

Dear Val,
 
Thank you so much for all the work you have done on the Bavidge/Babbidge etc. name.
 
I notice that while you have some of my great-grandfather's family, you do not have all the names, including his.  His parents were John Babbedge (I think you have him listed as Babbidge) and Elizabeth Harris who married at Northwood, Isle of Wight on 16/10/1832.
 
You have listed Margaret Harris Babbidge, Sarah Jane Babbidge, Samuel Babbidge, George Babbidge, William James Babbidge, Kate Anna Babbidge and Arthur Simion Babbidge.
 
Details which I have in addition to these are:
 
Benjamin Harris Babbidge b 2/10/1836, Newport, Isle of Wight, Bap. 1844 Whippingham, died 19/2/1905 Brisbane, Aust, m 27/8/1856 at Register Office, Newport, County of Southampton to Elizabeth Ann Damp (b 25/5/1837, Arreton, IofW, d 27/6/1961 Brisbane, Aust.  After completing a shipbuilding apprenticeship, Benjamin and wife Elizabeth came to Australia as assisted immigrants in 1857 on the "New Great Britain".  He worked as a blacksmith, and opened his own business in 1865 as a ship and general smith, servicing Black Ball line of clipper ships.  He established a railway rolling stock manufactory in South Brisbane in 1885 called Babbidge Brothers.  I believe that Samuel and possibly James were in the business.  Benjamin was an alterman from 1878, and was elected Mayor of Brisbane in 1885.
 
James b 1833? d 8/11/1925 Brisbane m Mary Elizabeth Wright
 
Elizabeth Drew Babbage b 9/6/1844 Bap. Whippingham m John Gapes 7/4/1863
 
John Frost Babbidge Bap 1844 m 6/12/1863 to Mary Ann Watson (or Hutson)
 
Children of Benjamin Harris Babbidge and Elizabeth Ann Damp were:
Benjamin Damp Harris Babbidge b 25/11/1857 Stocton NSW d 1/1/1936 m Alice Langridge 1878 (6 children)
Elizabeth Ann Babbidge b 29/7/1859 Brisbane m George Edward Ely 20/12/1883 (6 children 2 sets twins)
John George Babbidge b 22/6/61 Brisbane d 2/5/1931 m Elizabeth Jane Smith 14/10/1884 (7 children)
Arthur Harry Babbidge b 7/6/1863 Brisbane d 14/4/1919 m Harriet Jane Young 12/1/1881
Julia Ann Babbidge b 16/6/1865 Brisbane d 29/7/1865
* Lillian Babbidge b 26/7/1866 d 5/8/1949 m Paul Williams 14/8/1889
Margaret Emily Babbidge b 1/2/1871 d 31/7/1873
Florance Alice Babbidge b 22/6/1873 d 18/2/1912 m George Williams 1/10/1890
William Alfred Babbidge b 11/6/1875 d 23/5/1951 m Annie Elizabeth Jane Maxwell 23/3/1898
Edwin Edgar Babbidge b 22/8/1877 d 30/11/1908
Margaret Babbidge b 30/4/1880 d 5/5/1880
Charles Oliver B 2/10/1881 d 23/10/1881
 
I have some details of children of the above.
 
Lillian was my grandmother.  Her children were:
Elizabeth Lilian Margaret Williams (known as Lilly) b 15/2/1891 m Cuthbert Evelyn Chambers 11/3/1925 (Lilly died prior to 1966) (One child - Neville)
* Paul Stanley Williams (known as Stan) b 3/8/1897 d 21/12/1966 m Florence Doreen Weir (known as Doreen) 15/8/1936 (3 children)
Graham Williams b 9/9/1903 d 1907
Lorna Beatrice Williams (known as Trixie) b 5/2/1908 d about 1960
Doris Heather Williams (known as Heather) b 30/9/1910 d 197? m Herbert George Turton 6/12/1934 (one child - Robyn)
 
Stan was my father - he always believed his name was Stanley Paul Williams.  His children are:
Geoffrey Paul Williams b 15/11/1937 m Eileen Anne Watson December 1967 (2 children - Geoffrey Robert Paul Williams b 6/9/1970 and Tania Leigh-Anne Williams b 3/4/1973)
Bruce Winston Williams b 2/6/1941 m Mavis Austin (nee Brooks) October 1983
* Patricia Margaret Williams b 28/8/1944 m Allan Daniel Fazldeen 19/8/1967
 
My children are:
Samantha Kay Fazldeen b 18/11/1971 m Peter Stuart John Abt 7/2/1995 (4 children)
Allan Paul Fazldeen b 26/9/1973 (known as Paul)
 
Samantha's children are:
Sarah-Jane Elizabeth Abt b 17/7/1995
Madeline Rose Abt b 13/4/1999
Lily-Anne Margaret Abt b 9/4/2003
Rosanna Carmen Abt b 9/4/2003
 
I suppose you need more information like this like you need a hole in the head, but having collected it, I am keen to see it connect up to the 'big' tree.
 
Let me know if you want any more.
 
I have sent a message to Annie (wbbh@mary.big.net.au) with some of this information, having seen the message on your web site.
 
Regards,
 
Trish Fazldeen

Hi Valerie:

Thanks for your email. The website is a credit to you and certainly interesting to me. I have done some checking with my aged aunt in Melbourne and she has provided the following information:

My grandfather was Frederick Charles Richard Bavage and he was born in Plymouth on 18th May 1901. His father was Frederick Charles Bavage ( a plasterer by trade) and his wife was Caroline. That's all I have. Please feel free to post on the site. Obviously I am keen to hear from anyone who can shed any further light on my particular branch of the family!

Let me know if I can assist anyone from my end.

Regards,

Steve Bavage    sbavage@yahoo.com (Has since changed mail address)

Hello,
 I am interested in the BABBAGE family at Thorverton. My great grandfather was born there (Thomas Christopher BABBAGE) in 1851. He was in the army and married an Irish lady, Caroline ANDERSON. Their first five children were born abroad: Fred in Bermuda, William in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Albert in Cyprus, Charles in Malta and Christopher in Ireland. In 1884 they moved to Wicklewood, Norfolk and between 1886-88 they moved to Crownthorpe, Norfolk, where my grandfather Percy Leonard BABBAGE ( No 10 of 16 children in total!) was born.

I would love to hear from anyone who has an interest in the BABBAGE surname.

Best wishes,
Fran Bristow :-)  the_bristows@msn.com

I am searching for any information on the descendants of:

Henry GIMBLETT married Ellen SOUTHEY on 4th Jan 1890 in the Parish of East
Stonehouse, Devon, UK
Henry rank or profession: Musician R.M.L.I.
Age at marriage: 22
Residence at time of marriage: Stonehouse
Father of Henry: John Henry GIMBLETT=Musician in His Majesty's Service
Witness's: Frederick Pascoe, Francis E.J. Poscoe

Ellen was born at Torpoint, Cornwall.
 Regards Amanda amandacurran@bigpond.com NSW Australia


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Cynthia

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Dear Val,
This is all the info we have on Charles Babbage. It sounds a possible
connection but can't be sure. WE haven't traced the line down as yet.
Charles A Babbage
Comments: Married in 1886, Gulgong, NSW


Charles's Family

Spouse: Mary J Warner married
Children: Grace L Babbage, Annie E Babbage, Ruby P Babbage


lotocki@ozemail.com.ay



"Hello Val

My name is Andrew Clarke, son of Joseph Leonard Clarke whose Mother was
Florence Ruth BAVAGE (married Henry CLARKE). Sadly Ruth (as she was known)
died on Sunday 30th December 2001 in Newark, Notts where she had lived since
1972.

It was fascinating to look through your website and trace back my relatives
from so long ago - it was also amazing to see my name and those of my close
family on the site as well. I am not sure if you are still updating the site
but if you are i could let you know of the updates as far as the CLARKE side
of the tree is concerned (all three of Joseph's children are now married and
have children).

Please let me know if you would like the details and i will gladly email
them to you.


Thank you for the effort you have put into the site.


Kind Regards


Andrew Clarke"  andrewclarke@tiscali.co.uk



Hi Val

Sorry i have not got back to you sooner - been a bit busy with work. Here is
the latest info on the CLARKE side of things - i do not have all the birth
dates of everyone but hope this wont be a problem

Myself, Andrew James Clarke (son of Joseph) is now married to ANGELIQUE
RAZIA CLARKE - we have a son named NICHOLAS ASHLEIGH CLARKE (BORN 13.6.98)
and a daughter named STORM AMAZON JADE CLARKE (born 21.6.01)

My sister Amanda Jane Clarke is now married to Clive Thompson (d.o.b.
unknown) and they have a daughter ABIGAIL THOMPSON (31.5.00)

My other sister Caroline Ruth Clarke is now married to WILLIAM TOMBS with no
children.


My nan FLORENCE RUTH CLARKE died on the 30/12/01 if you could add this to
the website.


If you need any more details please let me know and i will see what i can do


Thanks and Regards

Andrew

andrewclarke@tiscali.co.uk

To add to your list I have two more children of James Babbidge Jr. and
Margaret Forsyth. From the North Yarmouth, Maine VR (Births) page 2 we find
following Ann is Mary, born 21 June 1730, and following William is Tamsin
born 30 May 1736.

The above James Babbidge Jr.'s parents are James Babbidge Sr. and Prudence.
Their children are Peter, Courtney, James Jr., William, and Tampson. James
Sr. father is Lord Courtney Babbidge from Manchester, England.

Bob Doughty, Seattle, Washington, USA
 

FreshHeir@aol.com



My name is Don Hetherington, resident in Australia and I'm researching BABBAGE, WITTIN, CAMPION, PARTRIDGE, LAMBLE, CHURCHWARD, RENDLE, BASTOW. All from within Devon mainly the Torquay area.

My grandmother was Bessie BABBAGE b.1892 m.1919  to Norman HETHERINGTON at St Marychurch

Looking for any information on any of the following:

BABBAGE, John b.???, m ??? Winifred ???
Known children: George b.1820 Stoke in Teignhead, Devon; Samuel and Elizabeth

George BABBAGE m. ??? Mary Ann WITTIN b.1820 Stoke in Teignhead, Devon
Children: William b. 1845, Hannah b. 1850, John b. 1850, Henry b.1854, Betty b. 1857 all b, Stoke in Teignhead

John m.??? Elizabeth ??? b. 1854 St Marychurch, Devon
Children: Frank b.1873, John  C b. 1875, Alice M b. 1877, George b.1879, Eva b. 1880

Henry m. ??? Emma ???b. 1854 Plymouth, Devon
Known children: Mary A b. 1879 St Marychurch

William m.??? Harriet CAMPION b 1848, Islington, Devon
Children: William George b. 1867, Alfred b.1871, Felix b.1873, Emma b. 1876,  Sydney b.1877, Claude b.1880, Jesse b.1882, Lucy b.1886, Harold b.1887, Bessie b.1892 (G/Ma) all b. St Marychurch

William George m. Bessie PARTRIDGE: children Edith  & Charles Ewart
Alfred m. Mary Ann ???: Children: Frank b. 1897; Albert Ernest b 1899; Alfred Thomas b.1901; Dorothy Ellen b.1905, William Alfred b.1909; Cyril b.1910
Emma m. 1908 St Marychurch,  James LAMBLE b.1878 Torquay": Children: Ruby
Sydney m.1908 Woolborough, Devon, Annie Louise CHURCHWARD b.1882; Children: Desmond Sydney b.1909, Neta Irene b. 1912
Jesse m.??? Emily Millie Susan RENDLE b.1888: Children: Doris b.1910, Lesley b.1912, Norman William b.1914
Lucy m.??? William BASTOW b. 1880 Wales. Children: Lucy Hazel b. 1923, Evelyn Harriet b.1916, Ivan b.1920 

latown@netspace.net.au





 

Thank you for your reply.
My Babbage interest is for the family of Frederick
Charles Babbage.  He appears to have been born 1870, Whitchurch, Devonport, Devon, England.  Father: John Babbage, Mother:  Anne Clark.  He married Mary Laird Rankin in New Zealand 3 October 1894. They had six children - May, Lil, Dick, Stan, Doris, John.  All have now passed away.  Our side of the family comes down through May who married Charles Bernard Lee in NZ.  Charles coming from Somerset, England with his brother Ralph when they were approx 16 and 18 years of age. I wonder if you have come across this Babbage family in your travels.

Jenny & Malcolm Vincent  maljen@xtra.co.nz



Hi Val

Several factors now lead us to believe that we did not have the right William Dundridge Babbage. The information provided to me earlier has been followed up to a degree and seems to check out. One other issue was occupation and the apparent continuation shipwright trade in the Babbage/Gimblett family. Our William was a seaman and we now believe that the correct one is William Dundridge Babbage who was the son of John Babbage (also a seaman) and Catherine Avery. We would like you to remove the reference to Rose Gimblett and her family from our tree. We have been doing more work on the Vorco side and after having another look at all the entries on your website everything seems to lead back to St Germans. How much work has been done on this parish. I see there are quite a lot of records available including parish chest records. I will have a look at obtaining all these records if no one else has already done it.

regards Chris Bartlett



Hi - what a wonderful website you have made! Thank you for leading me to it!
I have only very recently discovered this branch of family so do not know much at all at mo!! from census info etc I have gleaned the following-

my ancestor Joseph Foster (possibly also spelt Forster) fisherman from Revelstoke b abt 1829/30 married a Sarah Sansom Babbage from Brixton in Brixton church 1855 5th July- (a friend gave me this from Plymouth marriage CD) and the BMD has Plympton 5b 373 1855 Sept Quarter-Sarah Sansom Babbage

1861 census has
Newton Ferrers district5 folio 54 p 9
Joseph Foster ag lab b Revelstoke age 31 Sarah wife age 27 b Brixton Harriet age 4 Amy B age 2 both born Revelstoke John H age 5 months born Newton Ferrers

1851 has Joseph at home with his parents Richard & Elizabeth but no sign of my Sarah!! even with all sorts of spellings tried!
I am going to be patient and wait for a certificate and then I will be delighted to add her to your huge collection!!

All the best
Carole         Carole Sergeant [casgdn@ntlworld.com]


 

Hello,

I am the secretary of Burghclere Primary School’s PTA.  We are compiling an archive of the history of our school and I have noted that Frederick Wm Babbage was a teacher there from at least 1868 to 1874.

Out of curiosity I have looked him up on the 1881 census, as I wanted to know a  little more about him and found it was a master at a school in Wokingham.  I have just checked Google.  I have found your entry and I know it is the same chap. 

This is massive long-shot – do you have any more information about him, especially, do you have a photo?  It would make a great addition to our Archive!  We are planning a school reunion / school fete in June and plan to decorate our lovely village primary school in various eras, with photographs, school documents, various artefacts.  You might like to come along!

I look forward to hearing from you,

Barbara Magee

Parent of Burghclere Primary School Girl,

Secretary of PTA

And Chartered Librarian

Have not contacted you for a while but have stumbled across some new information regarding the Babbages.  The following are all buried in one grave (clearly marked) at Llandyri Church, Trimsaran, Carmarthenshire.  Apparently my mother-in-law knew this all along but had omitted to tell us!  Anyway they are

Christopher E.G. Babbage (1854)  died on 6th October 1936 aged 83

His Wife Rose Hannah Babbage(1865) died on 24th July 1938 aged 73

Their children

William John Babbage (1886) died on 24th October 1917 aged 30
Jessie Babbage (1888) died on 8th February 1919 aged 31
Charles Edward Babbage (1889) died on 5th September 1958 aged 69

Buried in two separate graves are their sisters

Alice Marguerite Babbage (Rowlands)(1891) died 11th December 1987 aged 96
Annie Rose Babbage (John)(1894) died on 5th August 1977 aged 83

Buried at Tabernacle Chapel also in Trimsaran is their brother

Christopher George Babbage (1896) died in August 1982 aged 86 years

Also his son

Noel Sydney Babbage died on 25th January 1999

Hope all this is not too confusing and will be of interest to you

Nicola Daniels

NicolaDnls@aol.com


Hi Valerie
I have a HENRY BAVIDGE, witness at the marriage of my Gt. Grandparents, JOSEPH RUDD and ANNIE HANCOCK in The Parish Church (Holy Saviours) on February 23, 1885. The other witness was an Agnes Thompson. I found them both on the 1881 Census in Tynemouth.
Good luck
Take care,

sheelagh.davies@ntlworld.com



Great site. I have just started to try and trace my mums family tree. She was born a Bavage. She was born in 1932,Plymouth,Devon.England. She married my father in 1950 and I was born in 1951. She died in 1952. I have managed to trace my maiden name Bruford back as far as 1560. I now wish to trace mum's family line. Interesting to see that you also have family that came from Plymouth. Would be interested to hear from you. Cheers   Jeanette 

Jeanette Murphy    nettybru@blueyonder.co.uk


Val

Data on subsequent generations as follows:

1. My maiden name was Margaret Amy Clara Baker. I married Gordon Ernest
George Galletly (Fg.Off., RAF), and we have one daughter, Fiona Lyn born
25/07/1955 who married John Charles Lockett on 17/07/1977 and they have one daughter, Rebecca Margaret born 14/11/1983 and one son, Duncan Christian Michael, born 15/01/1986.
2. My sister, Audrey Vera Baker, married John Buick Breckon in c.1952 and they had issue Jane born c.1955 and Barry born c.1957 3. My mother, Audrey May Babbage, through her first marriage to Edward Danin, had issue one son, Oscar born18/05/1909 died 1989 and one daughter, Naomi born.04/12/1921 died 2003.

Galletly [galletly@onetel.com]

Hi Valerie
I have a HENRY BAVIDGE, witness at the marriage of my Gt. Grandparents, JOSEPH RUDD and ANNIE HANCOCK in The Parish Church (Holy Saviours) on February 23, 1885. The other witness was an Agnes Thompson. I found them both on the 1881 Census in Tynemouth.
Good luck
Take care

Sheelagh Davies [sheelagh.davies@ntlworld.com]

Hi,

Have not contacted you for a while but have stumbled across some new information regarding the Babbages.  The following are all buried in one grave (clearly marked) at Llandyri Church, Trimsaran, Carmarthenshire.  Apparently my mother-in-law knew this all along but had omitted to tell us!  Anyway they are

Christopher E.G. Babbage (1854)  died on 6th October 1936 aged 83

His Wife Rose Hannah Babbage(1865) died on 24th July 1938 aged 73

Their children

William John Babbage (1886) died on 24th October 1917 aged 30
Jessie Babbage (1888) died on 8th February 1919 aged 31
Charles Edward Babbage (1889) died on 5th September 1958 aged 69

Buried in two separate graves are their sisters

Alice Marguerite Babbage (Rowlands)(1891) died 11th December 1987 aged 96
Annie Rose Babbage (John)(1894) died on 5th August 1977 aged 83

Buried at Tabernacl Chapel also in Trimsaran is their brother

Christopher George Babbage (1896) died in August 1982 aged 86 years

Also his son

Noel Sydney Babbage died on 25th January 1999

Hope all this is not too confusing and will be of interest to you

Nicola Daniels
NicolaDnls@aol.com

Dear Val,
 
Thank you so much for all the work you have done on the Bavidge/Babbidge etc. name.
 
I notice that while you have some of my great-grandfather's family, you do not have all the names, including his.  His parents were John Babbedge (I think you have him listed as Babbidge) and Elizabeth Harris who married at Northwood, Isle of Wight on 16/10/1832.
 
You have listed Margaret Harris Babbidge, Sarah Jane Babbidge, Samuel Babbidge, George Babbidge, William James Babbidge, Kate Anna Babbidge and Arthur Simion Babbidge.
 
Details which I have in addition to these are:
 
Benjamin Harris Babbidge b 2/10/1836, Newport, Isle of Wight, Bap. 1844 Whippingham, died 19/2/1905 Brisbane, Aust, m 27/8/1856 at Register Office, Newport, County of Southampton to Elizabeth Ann Damp (b 25/5/1837, Arreton, IofW, d 27/6/1961 Brisbane, Aust.  After completing a shipbuilding apprenticeship, Benjamin and wife Elizabeth came to Australia as assisted immigrants in 1857 on the "New Great Britain".  He worked as a blacksmith, and opened his own business in 1865 as a ship and general smith, servicing Black Ball line of clipper ships.  He established a railway rolling stock manufactory in South Brisbane in 1885 called Babbidge Brothers.  I believe that Samuel and possibly James were in the business.  Benjamin was an alterman from 1878, and was elected Mayor of Brisbane in 1885.
 
James b 1833? d 8/11/1925 Brisbane m Mary Elizabeth Wright
 
Elizabeth Drew Babbage b 9/6/1844 Bap. Whippingham m John Gapes 7/4/1863
 
John Frost Babbidge Bap 1844 m 6/12/1863 to Mary Ann Watson (or Hutson)
 
Children of Benjamin Harris Babbidge and Elizabeth Ann Damp were:
Benjamin Damp Harris Babbidge b 25/11/1857 Stocton NSW d 1/1/1936 m Alice Langridge 1878 (6 children)
Elizabeth Ann Babbidge b 29/7/1859 Brisbane m George Edward Ely 20/12/1883 (6 children 2 sets twins)
John George Babbidge b 22/6/61 Brisbane d 2/5/1931 m Elizabeth Jane Smith 14/10/1884 (7 children)
Arthur Harry Babbidge b 7/6/1863 Brisbane d 14/4/1919 m Harriet Jane Young 12/1/1881
Julia Ann Babbidge b 16/6/1865 Brisbane d 29/7/1865
* Lillian Babbidge b 26/7/1866 d 5/8/1949 m Paul Williams 14/8/1889
Margaret Emily Babbidge b 1/2/1871 d 31/7/1873
Florance Alice Babbidge b 22/6/1873 d 18/2/1912 m George Williams 1/10/1890
William Alfred Babbidge b 11/6/1875 d 23/5/1951 m Annie Elizabeth Jane Maxwell 23/3/1898
Edwin Edgar Babbidge b 22/8/1877 d 30/11/1908
Margaret Babbidge b 30/4/1880 d 5/5/1880
Charles Oliver B 2/10/1881 d 23/10/1881
 
I have some details of children of the above.
 
Lillian was my grandmother.  Her children were:
Elizabeth Lilian Margaret Williams (known as Lilly) b 15/2/1891 m Cuthbert Evelyn Chambers 11/3/1925 (Lilly died prior to 1966) (One child - Neville)
* Paul Stanley Williams (known as Stan) b 3/8/1897 d 21/12/1966 m Florence Doreen Weir (known as Doreen) 15/8/1936 (3 children)
Graham Williams b 9/9/1903 d 1907
Lorna Beatrice Williams (known as Trixie) b 5/2/1908 d about 1960
Doris Heather Williams (known as Heather) b 30/9/1910 d 197? m Herbert George Turton 6/12/1934 (one child - Robyn)
 
Stan was my father - he always believed his name was Stanley Paul Williams.  His children are:
Geoffrey Paul Williams b 15/11/1937 m Eileen Anne Watson December 1967 (2 children - Geoffrey Robert Paul Williams b 6/9/1970 and Tania Leigh-Anne Williams b 3/4/1973)
Bruce Winston Williams b 2/6/1941 m Mavis Austin (nee Brooks) October 1983
* Patricia Margaret Williams b 28/8/1944 m Allan Daniel Fazldeen 19/8/1967
 
My children are:
Samantha Kay Fazldeen b 18/11/1971 m Peter Stuart John Abt 7/2/1995 (4 children)
Allan Paul Fazldeen b 26/9/1973 (known as Paul)
 
Samantha's children are:
Sarah-Jane Elizabeth Abt b 17/7/1995
Madeline Rose Abt b 13/4/1999
Lily-Anne Margaret Abt b 9/4/2003
Rosanna Carmen Abt b 9/4/2003
 
I suppose you need more information like this like you need a hole in the head, but having collected it, I am keen to see it connect up to the 'big' tree.
 
Let me know if you want any more.
 
I have sent a message to Annie (wbbh@mary.big.net.au) with some of this information, having seen the message on your web site.
 
Regards,
 
Trish Fazldeen    Allan Fazldeen [fazldeen@bigpond.net.au]

Hi Bob/Val

Its me again, have been trawling through my information today and have come across a few amendments to yours and maybe a few things you haven't got.  So here goes

Herbert Octavius 1881 - 1952 born in Swansea, married Ellen Mowbray in Swansea, two children - don't know names.  Buried in Wales, don't know where exactly

William John 1866 - 1917 born in Swansea, not married no children.  Died in accident, scarf got pulled into machinery in pit.  Buried in Llandyri Trimsaran.

Jessie 1888 - 1919 born in Swansea, married Mr Edwards, no children, died of probably appendicitis, buried in Llandyri Trimsaran.

Charles Edward 1889 -1958, born in Swansea, not married no children, buried in Llandyri Trimsaran

Alice Marguerite 1891 - 1987 born in Swansea, married John Rowlands, had six children -

Arrel?
Jack
Gwyneth
Cora
?
?

Buried in Llandyri Trimsaran

Annie Rose 1894 - 1977 born in Swansea, married William John, had three children

Hubert
Colin (Committed suicide)
Elizabeth (Betty)

Buried in Llandyri Trimsaran

Christopher George 1896 -1982 married Esther Ann Beynon, had four children

Esther Rose Hannah (my mother -in-law)
Jessie
Noel (died in 1999)
Madge (died c1944 aged 14)

Buried in Tabernacl Chapel Trimsaran

Richard Henry 1901- ? married May? had two children, Richard and Margaret Rose, buried in Llanishen Cardiff.

Hope all this is of some help to you, can probably get some more information if I keep interrogating my mother in law!  Bye for now

Nicola Daniels   NicolaDnls@aol.com

Does anyone have info on a SARAH SANSOM BABBAGE married JOSEPH FOSTER 1855 BRIXTON DEVON-(near Newton Ferrers/Yealmpton)

anyone come across these people Nathaniel Yabsley 08 SEP 1848 married Sarah Babbage daughter of Jeremiah, Brixton Devon

Hi - what a wonderful website you have made!! thank you for leading me to it!
I have only very recently discovered this branch of family so do not know much at all at mo!! from census info etc I have gleaned the following-

my ancestor Joseph Foster (possibly also spelt Forster) fisherman from Revelstoke b abt 1829/30 married a Sarah Sansom Babbage from Brixton in Brixton church 1855 5th July- (a friend gave me this from Plymouth marriage CD) and the BMD has Plympton 5b 373 1855 Sept Quarter-Sarah Sansom Babbage

1861 census has
Newton Ferrers district5 folio 54 p 9
Joseph Foster ag lab b Revelstoke age 31 Sarah wife age 27 b Brixton Harriet age 4 Amy B age 2 both born Revelstoke John H age 5 months born Newton Ferrers

1851 has Joseph at home with his parents Richard & Elizabeth but no sign of my Sarah!! even with all sorts of spellings tried!
I am going to be patient and wait for a certificate and then I will be delighted to add her to your huge collection!!

All the best
Carole

Carole Sergeant [casgdn@ntlworld.com]

Hi
This could well be the same Grace Babbage that you have. What we have found out about her is as follows:- She was married to Richard Wyatt, my great great grandfather. We haven't got her exact date of birth. We found her in the 1881 census aged 61, a widow living in Stoke Damerel, Devon and in the 1891 census aged 71, living with son Albert in Plymouth.
We have the birth certificate of her second child, Frederick Wyatt, my great grandfather, born in 1851, on which she appears. They were living then at Bonalva, St Germans, Cornwall.
She was born in Stokenham, Devon. We believe they had 4 children - Elizabeth, Frederick, John & Albert.
We would be grateful if you can fill in any of the gaps.
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Mary Last     [mary.last@marwood.eclipse.co.uk]

HI Val,
The Sidney John son of Frederick and Mary Jane when on to become an officer in the royal navy and commanded a Torpedo Boat 074 in the later parts of the First World War I have his complete Naval record saying what ships he served on. At the end of the war he was working in Barrow-in-Furnace when a primer exploded in a building and he wan two other officers were killed I have the papers with the inquest results in as well. He had a big Military funeral in Plymouth and I have a photo of his grave. I also have all his relations from there on many in detail his son and Grand son both served in the RN neither reaching officer rank. His g/son fought throughout the second world war I have all there naval records obtained from the PRO. I will try and write it all down because I haven't tried to do the gedcom bit yet.
Regards Royce     Royce Longden [rbvl@longden101.fsnet.co.uk

Valerie

For your records my maternal grandfather was Edward John Babbage (no dates
available) who married Amy Ramm, the latter being born 1875 and died 1928.
They had as issue three daughters - Maida (born 1896), Margaret (born 1898 and died 1928) and Audrey May (my mother) who was born 1900 and died 1979.

I also have a latter written to my grandfather by his brother James, the letter being dated 9 June 1886 and having been sent from The Ordnance Survey
Office, Southampton. The contents of the letter lead me to believe that my
grandfather (whom James refers to as "Jack") was a serving officer in the Army because in the letter James says "I hope to see you a Lieutenant....."

Hope this will help add to your knowledge of the Babbages.

Regards

Margaret Galletly [galletly@onetel.com]

Val,

Today received a copy of the marriage certificate of my Sarah Sansom Babbage which I thought you might like to see

-5th July 1855 Joseph Foster-bachelor -aged 25 of Revelstoke -labourer- son of Richard Foster labourer Sarah Sansom Babbage -spinster-aged 21 of Brixton Town-daughter of John Babbage labourer witnesses-Richard Foster and Richard Shillabeer all made their mark except signature of R Shillabeer and Richard Lane officiating minister

and I am making a considered assumption that these are her parents on 1851 census though cant find her?-gone out of county off my CD!?

BABBAGE, John Neighbors 53863
Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace John BABBAGE Head M 60 M Pauper Ag Laborer Brixton-DEV Ann BABBAGE Wife M 63 F --- Holbeton-DEV Elizabeth BABBAGE Daur U 19 F Dressmaker Brixton-DEV John TORRIN Lodg W 40 M Masons Laborer Aveton Gifford-DEV
Address: Fox Hound Inn, Plympton St Mary Census Place: Brixton Plympton St Mary, Devonshire PRO Reference: HO/107/1877 Folio: 230 Page: 14 FHL Film: 0221025


Do you have info on any of these!?-feel free to add her to your collection !
best wishes
Carole     [casgdn@ntlworld.com

 
1) Have contacted my newly found 2nd and 3rd cousins(!) with the information you sent. They are both descended from William and Maud Clasby nee Coombs. If there is a connection, they will know!
 
I am a grand daughter of James Albert, Maud's elder brother, who, with their sister Laura. were all born in Woking in the 1870s. They were the surviving children of James and Mary Coombs nee Pretty. James 1840, was born in Ludgershall, Wiltshire and Mary at Winchfield,
Hampshire.
 
If I have not already done so, I will open up my tree to you.
 
Isn't this exciting!

2)

Gosh!!!!!!!!!!!
 
A most interesting site. It was good to see Maud Amelia Coombs. I was puzzled, however, by the fact that her son George, his wife Violet and daughters Sylvia, Iris and Evelyn did not appear.
 
I only met Maud once, when she came to visit my grandfather, in 1955 shortly before he died in the July, with her following in the December.
 
George and Violet died within a tear of each other in the late 70s. Sylvia died about twenty years ago, but I understand Iris and Evelyn are still alive and kicking.
 
If Hilda does not have the site she will be thrilled to pieces.
 
 
Anne     Jaclouem@aol.com

Hi Val,

I was thrilled to come across your site. It is brilliant. There is a connection with my tree. I have the Hexter/Babbage/Shapley names in my tree. I would love to compare information with your details and was wondering if you have an easier way of me doing this. It would take me a long time to run off each page because of the number. I am happy to send you a report of all the information I have. I use Family Tree maker and hopefully we can help one another.

I hope to hear from you soon.

regards

Joan

JoanMargaretAdam@aol.com

I am researching my wife's family (her mother was a Babbidge). Found your wonderful site thanks to Google!  I found several of my wife's uncles in one of your lists (Louis, Irving, Hueling, Carl and Elbert) - all the birthdates you have match the ones I have.  Now my interest is peaked to say the least!  I have only been able to trace our line back to a Seth Warren Babbidge who was the father of Irving Howard Babbidge (b. February 1, 1882).  Do you have someplace or something I can access to track backward from Seth (including his full record)?  I'm very new to your site and haven't yet had a good chance to really get to know it - so I was just wondering if this is available. 
 
Thank you very much
Gary Jones
Stayton, Oregon, USA

andgar@wvi.com

Dear Val
 
thank you so much for the enthusiastic welcome and the generous sharing of your knowledge!
 
Here's my humble contribution:
 
Although IGI isn't always reliable, it lists John Popplestone Babbage's parents as Jeremiah and Mary Popplestone.  Maybe that helps.
 
I saw the reference to an apprenticeship for Jeremiah on your site.  How does one find out in what craft he was apprenticed?
 
I counted 8 children, not 7.
 
Harriet Maud(e)'s name is probably reliably "Harriet".  I got this from freeBMD.  They have Eliza Gulley's name spelled "Gully" but I don't think there are too many ways to spell Harriet. I've bracketed the spelling of Maud(e) because I have seen it spelled both ways.
 
Thirza Ann probably married John Bryant West.
 
Amelia Ellen is listed on freeBMD with spouse spellings of both Sowden and Lowden.
 
Harriet Maud(e) may have married in 1896 but her spouse identity is uncertain.
 
Sarah Jane may have married in 1886.
 
There is a full copy of the GRO from 1838 to 2002 on microfiche in the National Library of Australia.  My middle son plays French Horn and has orchestra practice on Wednesday evenings.  This is my time for heading to the NLA basement so I can check the events that appear uncertain in a reliable reference.
 
I started using an Australian program called Relatively Yours 3 just last weekend.  I was overwhelmed by the amount of information my father and his cousin had collected for a published work "The Garbutt Family 1640-1995".  Fortuitously two son's of Eliza Emily married two Garbutt daughters, so at least for their lines I have reliable names and dates. Perhaps unfortunately, his other cousins were less co-operative so I know less of his Aunt's.  This program is said to be built to GEDCOM 5.5 standards.  I would be happy to try to import your data.
 
I haven't recorded a lot yet in my database yet but I will get you everything I can as I collate my father's notes and explore his records with the public records in Australia. 
 
I have attached two interesting photographs.  The couple with children I believe to be Thomas Webber and Eliza Emily Babbage with sons Thomas John and James Henry.  The baby is most likely Mary.  This places the time around 1892/3 and the location is probably Waterloo, an inner Sydney suburb.  The second photograph is, I think, after a move southward following the extending railway line to a place called Ingleburn.  The woman on the left may be Eliza or an older sister.  I don't have a name for the younger girl (or the dove).
 
regards
 
Bruce.     B.Webber@ramint.gov.au
 

 

 Hi Val,
I'm reminded of a fellow, ex Navy, who said he couldn't remember his
official number. Can you believe it. Must be Old Timers Disease. But
you got me. 31344 was my Navy Official number .

Here is a few add ons to the facts so far. Must say I'm not a keen
Genealogist but I'll help if I can.
This is made up of your email plus my notes ..

You said..
The info you supplied has enabled me to connect a couple of "rogue" Babbages that I have on the data base.

Namely James Babbage, (1852) married to Georgina Broughton I have only 2 of their children listed:
1) James Henry (1881) married (1905, Newcastle) Johanna T.
Moroney............(MY GRANDPARENTS)
2) John E. (1888, Uralla) married (1913, St. Peter's) Dorothy
Bowman

YOU CAN ADD TO THAT....
CHARLES J. BORN 1882 Birth Reg No 25357 Uralla
CLARA BORN 1884 Birth Reg No29001 Uralla
EVA A. BORN 1885 Birth Reg No29862 Uralla

I knew Old Uncle Charlie (great uncle) and "Young Charlie" his son ...
And Auntie Clara married to Claude and their two children lived with my
great grandparents James, and Georgina in Sydney. I visited them at 24
North Avenue Leichardt.

You said..
Can you confirm that JAMES JOHN JOSEPH BABBAGE married ALICE RAYMONDE PHILP?
(or is it Phillip?)
I have 5 children listed:

YEP... THAT'S MY MUM AND DAD .but I've never heard of the Joseph component before. He was always J.J.Babbage.
She was a PHILP and born in Millers Forest outside Newcastle. She can be
traced back to a woman Philp in the first fleet and there's a marriage into the Nicholls fold. So through my mother we are listed in the John Nicholls Society family tree.
I don't follow it but my sister does and I have some printed matter somewhere outlining it all if you are interested.
The John Nicholls Society is very active in Sydney. Reunions etc..
By the way ... 5 kids in right ....
 


More later....... kind regards, Peter        pbabbage@campac.net.au

Dear Valerie,

You certainly may copy the Babbidge photo(s) for your records.  They were given to the Reunion with no strings attached.  Do plan to attend the reunion in August if you can journey to Maine.  A member of that branch of the family, Dean Mayhew, is one of our historians!

Peter Richardson
Historian
Kalloch Family Reunion Association